I think the TastyTrade response was appropriate. I have discounted all the blogs about Karen Bruton and have just focused on the SEC statements and complaint. Scott I think you are right with regards to management fees probably would have led to a better decision making process by the fund and regarding the performance fee I think the SEC agrees with you. From the complaint: 94. If those unrealized losses had been factored in, as required by the operating agreement, Hope would have been entitled to no fees.